Episode 71
Stem Cells Unleashed with Christian Drapeau
In this episode of the Biohacker's Podcast, Teemu Arina, curator of the Hololife Summit, interviews Christian Drapeau, stem cell researcher and CEO of STEMREGEN.
They dive into the emerging science of adult stem cells as a self-repair mechanism in the body, comparing it to the immune system. Christian explains that when injury or damage occurs, adult stem cells are released from the bone marrow, travel through the bloodstream, and contribute to tissue regeneration throughout the body.
The conversation covers the synergy between stem cell activity and mitochondrial health, particularly focusing on NAD+ and energy metabolism. Christian highlights the difference between natural, daily enhancement of stem cell release through plant-based supplements versus one-time injections—which carry risks such as contamination or genetic instability. The episode also details STEMREGEN’s proprietary blends and ingredients designed to support stem cell release, circulation, and function. Christian discusses clinical results, dietary synergies (like seaweed, omega‑3s, and polyphenols), and a daily protocol aimed at optimizing repair, reducing inflammation, and promoting longevity from within.
Christian and Teemu explore how lifestyle factors, nutrition, and targeted supplementation can naturally enhance stem cell release, migration, and function - without risky or expensive stem cell injections. Christian shares details on STEMREGEN’s formulations, including plant-based ingredients like fucoidan, aloe macroclada, and green tea polyphenols, and outlines a practical daily protocol for activating the body's self-renewing systems.
Learn more about STEMREGEN at https://stemregen.co and follow Christian on Instagram: @stemcellchristian!
This conversation was recorded in July 2025.
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Key moments and takeaways:
0:00 – Introduction by Teemu Arina
1:28 – Stem cells as a repair system
3:15 – History leading to stem cell science and modern applications
4:23 – Understanding adult stem cells vs. embryonic ones
5:52 – Clinical trials in chronic heart failure and Parkinson’s
7:01 – Age-related stem cell decline and its implications
9:01 – Natural reduction in stem cells and the need for support
10:13 – Daily cell turnover and role of stem cells in renewal
11:37 – How Christian boosted his own stem cell count
12:41 – Factors that reduce or support stem cell production
13:51 – Longevity benefits tied to functional repair, not anti-aging
15:06 – Aging reduces stem cell mobility and repair function
16:12 – Animal studies showing migration and tissue repair
17:31 – Food vs. pharmaceuticals in stem cell support
21:38 – STEMREGEN ingredients and supplement introduction
23:15 – How stem cells are attracted via receptor interaction
24:24 – Mechanism: stem cells homing in on injury sites
25:28 – How STEMREGEN activates targeted repair pathways
26:52 – Nutrients that boost stem cell circulation naturally
27:55 – Improving microcirculation to enhance stem cell activity
29:35 – Product safety, colostrum, and NSF certification
30:44 – Clinical study publication and product validation
32:18 – Attracting stem cells to problem areas effectively
33:23 – Signaling and directing stem cells in the body
34:41 – At what age should stem cell support begin?
35:49 – Athletes and stem cell usage under physical stress
37:14 – Aging and insufficient stem cells to offset degeneration
38:43 – Cardiovascular use case and stacking strategy
40:11 – Safety profile and tracking changes while using STEMREGEN
41:36 – Noticing tangible effects after repeated use
44:17 – Final thoughts on signaling, migration, and stem cell activation
Transcript
Music.
Speaker:Welcome to Biohacker's Podcast. My name is Teemu arina and we are fresh from the first Hololife Summit,
Speaker:which is now held in Tallinn
Speaker:estonia and i had the incredible opportunity to sit down with Christian Drapeau
Speaker:from STEMREGEN who gave a keynote also in this event and i'm happy to tell
Speaker:you that STEMREGEN is now finally available in European Union.
Speaker:If you've never heard about STEMREGEN, it is a supplemental way of supporting
Speaker:your stem cell production, proliferation and activation.
Speaker:And stem cells is kind of the next thing in biohacking to me.
Speaker:Like it's really been a lot about mitochondria and
Speaker:blood sugar regulation energy management cognitive
Speaker:function but stem cells are one of those like longevity systems I would say
Speaker:for us to live longer and have healthy ayes in our lives and faster recovery
Speaker:all of that so I'm very pleased to have Christian in the show Welcome. My pleasure.
Speaker:Great. What has been the topic that you did discuss in this year's conference?
Speaker:Well, it's the same message that I usually have about stem cells,
Speaker:which is really that stem cells are the repair system of the body.
Speaker:You know, I've been talking about this for more than 20 years.
Speaker:It's simple. It's so obvious. Stem cells are the repair system of the body.
Speaker:Just like we have an immune system, we have a repair system.
Speaker:And yet, after 20 years, the information is really not sinking in,
Speaker:in the general population to an extent. But like in medicine,
Speaker:med students still are not taught that stem cells are the repair system of the body. So I wonder why.
Speaker:Why is this information so hard to be seen?
Speaker:And I think one of the main element is that the last time that a system was
Speaker:documented or discovered, I should say, was in the early 1900s with the immune
Speaker:system, the nervous system and the endocrine system.
Speaker:All of these were discovered by academia. People discovering these all had like
Speaker:Nobel Prize. And a year, a century later, we suddenly discovered that the human
Speaker:body has another system that we did not know before.
Speaker:It's hard to swallow, that there's a music not discovered by academia,
Speaker:not put forth by academia.
Speaker:Nobody has had Nobel Prize around it, and it's not taught in med school.
Speaker:So I really understand that people may be sometimes just a little reluctant,
Speaker:like it's not easy to swallow.
Speaker:And so I position all that information back into the historical context of stem
Speaker:cell research to show that it's not this new thing that just came out of nowhere,
Speaker:but it's really more than 100 years of development.
Speaker:One discovery at a time, that led to what we know about stem cells.
Speaker:So when you present it like this, then suddenly it makes sense.
Speaker:All that information is just common sense. So that's really what I focused on at this presentation.
Speaker:Yeah, it is interesting that stem cells for most people, they are probably thinking
Speaker:about some medical treatments that are attempted if something else doesn't work,
Speaker:almost like last resort for some, or it is some kind of novel therapy that potentially
Speaker:comes with risks and invasive methods and all that injecting stem cells into your body.
Speaker:But a nutritional intervention that supports your stem cell production.
Speaker:We discussed that a lot in our last episode on the different ingredients that are in your products.
Speaker:Now, in terms of the different studies that you would kind of highlight,
Speaker:you said there's 100 years of studies behind this and discovery.
Speaker:What are the recent things that have come out for you that you would kind of,
Speaker:highlight in terms of our understanding on stem cells?
Speaker:So for us, the approach that we have is that we have a blend of plant extract
Speaker:that triggers the release of our own stem cells.
Speaker:It's called endogenous stem cell mobilization.
Speaker:A lot of the studies that we have in the scientific literature.
Speaker:We're done using compounds like GCSF, granulocyte colony stimulating factor.
Speaker:That's your natural response when you have an injury. Your body releases this
Speaker:compound, and this compound triggers the release of stem cells from the bone marrow.
Speaker:So many studies have shown that if you inject GCSF in animals,
Speaker:you really help repair from damage to the heart, to the lung,
Speaker:to the pancreas, to the liver, to the skin, to the brain.
Speaker:Like it really boosts repair. The problem is that that compound has toxicity when used in humans.
Speaker:So we know that releasing your own stem cells work, but as a treatment,
Speaker:it cannot be applied in humans.
Speaker:So what we have is a blend of plant extract that also trigger the release of
Speaker:your own stem cells to a lesser extent, but because it's completely safe,
Speaker:it can be done over long periods of time.
Speaker:So what we wanted to do and needed to do is to show that this product that we
Speaker:have developed, if it does release stem cells,
Speaker:we should see an impact on the recovery or repair of various organs and tissues
Speaker:in the body, what we can find in animal studies and literature.
Speaker:So that's what we started. We started a number of studies.
Speaker:The two that are ongoing right now, one is on stable chronic congestive heart
Speaker:failure. Another one is on Parkinson.
Speaker:And the one that was published recently about a month ago is on chronic stable
Speaker:congestive heart failure.
Speaker:So people who have had congestive heart failure for at least two years.
Speaker:But for the last two years, it's stable with all the treatment that medicine
Speaker:could do for these individuals.
Speaker:What we do is that we start giving them this blend of plant extract,
Speaker:two capsules, three times a day, and we follow them over six months.
Speaker:In this preliminary report, I say preliminary because it's the first 10 patients
Speaker:of a study that we hope to reach 50 to 100 patients, but the first 10,
Speaker:all 10 had normal heart function six months later.
Speaker:So we're talking about people for whom medicine did the best that it could.
Speaker:The heart is traditionally known to be an organ that does not repair very well.
Speaker:And here we are confirming what has been published in the animal studies.
Speaker:Like this is completely in line with what exists in the scientific literature
Speaker:by triggering the release of these people's own stem cells.
Speaker:People that are between, let's say, 60 to 75 years of age. They release their
Speaker:own stem cells every day within six months.
Speaker:All of them have regained normal heart function. So what you're talking about
Speaker:here, Parkinson's, heart disease, these are degenerative diseases that are the
Speaker:biggest killers of not just our generation, but world population in general.
Speaker:We look at 27% of world population having.
Speaker:Multiple chronic conditions. If you live more than 65 years old,
Speaker:there is somewhere between 60 and 70 percent of people have multiple chronic conditions.
Speaker:The older you become, the more likely it is that you will have one of those
Speaker:things, which is heart disease, some nervous system issues like Parkinson's,
Speaker:you have metabolic issues like diabetes and
Speaker:different conditions related to heart disease now those
Speaker:are the things that we see supporting
Speaker:your stem cell production might be one
Speaker:of the ways how we maybe slow
Speaker:down the aging process and maybe reverse those
Speaker:chronic conditions and definitely this
Speaker:is healthspan medicine in a way that it extends healthy
Speaker:years in your life now what is
Speaker:the reason why today's lifestyle
Speaker:the way people age with all
Speaker:these chronic conditions that they are i mean if this stem cell support really
Speaker:works then it means that there's something that is hindering their innate stem
Speaker:cell function at the moment so what are the sources of stress or reduction of stem cell production.
Speaker:Yeah. So are you restoring normal function or are you boosting the natural decline
Speaker:to a level where we can see that it's starting to function more like a young
Speaker:person's stem cell production? Yeah, it's more of a boosting effect.
Speaker:So if we, it's natural human physiology.
Speaker:So we're born with red marrow that very early in life converts to fatty marrow
Speaker:that does not make stem cells.
Speaker:By age 30, we've lost about 90% of our red marrow, which corresponds to a 90%
Speaker:decline in the number of stem cells in circulation.
Speaker:And the number of stem cells in circulation dictates how you can.
Speaker:Repair today if you have an injury or something to repair, but also how you
Speaker:can maintain your organs and tissues for decades to come.
Speaker:As from stem cell research is that the body is constantly in the process of tissue turnover.
Speaker:We lose cells every day and we need stem cells to replace the cells that are being lost.
Speaker:So if as long as you have enough stem cells to offset cellular loss, you're totally fine.
Speaker:You can maintain every single organ and tissue. But when you start to no longer
Speaker:have enough stem cells in circulation to offset cellulose, then a deficit starts
Speaker:to develop in various tissues.
Speaker:So you look at any kind of age-related diseases, like example,
Speaker:diabetes, you don't have enough stem cells making insulin because you've lost them.
Speaker:If you have hypothyroidism, you lost cells that can make T3, T4.
Speaker:So every single age-related disease is the loss of a type of cells that stem cells can become.
Speaker:So if you don't have enough stem cells in circulation, deficits start to develop
Speaker:into tissues, which over time becomes age-related disease.
Speaker:So we develop those problems because of that natural decline in stem cell function.
Speaker:We need to keep in mind, we have evolved over tens of thousands of years with
Speaker:a life expectancy of about 30 years of age.
Speaker:So longevity is not something that was selected during our evolution.
Speaker:Now we have 15 years more over the past 150 years.
Speaker:We've gained 50 years in longevity, but we don't really have the physiology
Speaker:to really be optimal health during that time.
Speaker:So what we are doing is that by triggering the release of our own stem cells,
Speaker:on that day, we've given back to the body its ability to repair that it had, let's say, 20 years ago.
Speaker:And if you do that every day, then you basically provide enough stem cells to start to
Speaker:replenish tissues with cells, repair them, and actually really improve various
Speaker:kinds of age-related disease.
Speaker:And if you talk about longevity, and to me, it's probably the most relevant
Speaker:message, is that when you study centenarians or super centenarians to see what
Speaker:are the characteristics that they all share, they all have in common.
Speaker:And there's really two things that they have in common. They're happy, number one.
Speaker:And number two, they don't develop age-related diseases until a few months before their passing.
Speaker:So delaying the onset of the development of age-related disease is the strongest
Speaker:strategy to increase longevity.
Speaker:And because you don't develop these problems, it's longevity with healthspan.
Speaker:So putting more stem cells in circulation, that's what it... Right.
Speaker:What are the lifestyle factors that would increase stem cell production naturally?
Speaker:And what are the things that would reduce their production? Yeah,
Speaker:there's not a lot that we know of, some.
Speaker:So we know that intense physical activity will put more stem cells in circulation.
Speaker:So you go to the gym and you really like kill yourself, you will trigger stem cell risk.
Speaker:Is that because it is due to damage to the muscle? I think so.
Speaker:Yeah. So basically, I mean, that's a natural response, right?
Speaker:You're getting more cells. So that's not necessarily like supporting long-term. Correct.
Speaker:So it's often been talked as a way of putting more stem cells in circulation,
Speaker:but you just look back at life you know athletes
Speaker:that have trained for long periods of time do not
Speaker:necessarily have a better health when they're older so you
Speaker:release more stem cells but they're utilized to repair the
Speaker:damages so i'm not sure that it's a longevity i mean exercise is great for a
Speaker:lot of things it's definitely a longevity practice but training to the extent
Speaker:where you create enough damage to actually release stem cells might not be the
Speaker:strategy for longevity so the effect of exercise not necessary is.
Speaker:The health benefits for longer is not because of stem cells per
Speaker:se there's all these other positive there's a
Speaker:lot of things yeah correct okay so basically that's
Speaker:not one so how about like sleep stress fasting more than three days will put
Speaker:more stem cells in circulation but it does something that is probably more significant
Speaker:than putting more stem cells in circulation is that it rejuvenates stem cells
Speaker:so autophagy in stem cells basically make them rejuvenate.
Speaker:So you take samples of stem cells from the bone marrow before and after a fast,
Speaker:and you can see that after the fast, stem cells behave like younger stem cells.
Speaker:So as we start to include fasting into your longevity lifestyle,
Speaker:let's say you do a three-day fast two, three times a year, you are going to
Speaker:constantly rejuvenate your stem cells, which will have a huge impact on longevity.
Speaker:So fasting is a great approach to really boost stem cells.
Speaker:Stress is going to suppress stem cell function in the same manner as smoking
Speaker:will do and alcohol also will do.
Speaker:So every day that you smoke, every day that you drink, your stem cells have
Speaker:reduced ability to migrate into tissues and to proliferate.
Speaker:So if you just think, I think that stress is probably the most dominant factor
Speaker:that is through its effect on stem cells is associated to so many different
Speaker:kinds of age-related problems.
Speaker:You look at almost every single age-related problems and stress is a component of it.
Speaker:And now we understand that if you live in today's world, all your life you live with stress.
Speaker:So during all these decades, your stem cell function has been reduced.
Speaker:Right. I guess it's more about the negative type of stress, distress.
Speaker:So when it comes to like positive. It's cortisol.
Speaker:So it could also be to an extent positive stress, but definitely more the negative
Speaker:stress that you'd like simmer on. Correct.
Speaker:Not release, migration and proliferation. So they essentially,
Speaker:the studies that were done is that you take a rat and you take stem cells from
Speaker:the animal, then you put the animal in a pool.
Speaker:And then after a few minutes of being in a pool, which really stresses the animal,
Speaker:then you take another sample of stem cells.
Speaker:If you compare their activity, their shutdown and their ability to migrate and proliferate.
Speaker:If you redo the same study, but remove the adrenal glands, so now the animal
Speaker:can no longer release cortisol.
Speaker:And then you redo the exact same process, you don't see the impact on stem cells.
Speaker:So it's stress. It's interesting.
Speaker:Like stress hormones are part of...
Speaker:Your ability to wake up in the morning so you kind of need them
Speaker:it's a positive thing but now this excess throughout the day
Speaker:might be one of those library problems that
Speaker:you don't have enough moments of recovery gotcha so i guess like this conversation
Speaker:brings us down to if one wants to support stem cell release or or proliferation
Speaker:activity like your real options are either.
Speaker:Injecting them or like some kind
Speaker:of nutraceutical approach right is that what
Speaker:you're saying correct and in terms of nutraceutical side
Speaker:are they like I mean you mentioned there's drugs with side
Speaker:effects that's the third one right of course like some kind
Speaker:of pharmaceuticals so when it
Speaker:comes to food is there like some regular dietary choices
Speaker:that one can make to support their stem cell
Speaker:production is it about using like all kinds of bitter herbs
Speaker:all the time or is there like some magic magic
Speaker:thing that one can have like kale that supports it
Speaker:there's not enough studies that have that has been done so far to
Speaker:study like food intake and the impact of food on on releasing stem cells all
Speaker:we can tell right now is a keto diet is is what has been supporting stem cell
Speaker:activity stem cell function in the body it's not tons of studies but somewhere
Speaker:it just makes sense that when you fast,
Speaker:you basically create ketones in the body.
Speaker:A lot of the benefits of fasting can be duplicated just by taking or injecting ketones.
Speaker:So ketone in a keto diet might be the common denominator to the impact of fasting on stem cells.
Speaker:So keto diet seems to be what supports stem cells the most.
Speaker:Okay, so looking at your products, you have this Madagascar-based aloe vera species.
Speaker:Does all aloe vera species have this stem cell effect? I'm just curious.
Speaker:It's not aloe vera, it's aloe macroclada.
Speaker:So they have, what, 65 species in Madagascar, and only that species has been
Speaker:used to make Vahona historically.
Speaker:So we did briefly test two different types of aloe, and I cannot see.
Speaker:We did not see the effect, but we did not see the effect with the same intensity by far.
Speaker:So I would say probably all aloe have that effect to some extent,
Speaker:and we simply just have it with a relatively small dose, actually, of aloe macroclada.
Speaker:Tests have shown a higher concentration of acimanins, but that's all that we know so far.
Speaker:So we don't really know why this specific aloe is so much more potent as a stem cell mobilizer.
Speaker:So often aloe is something that people might think is good for gut health or like wound healing.
Speaker:Does macroclutter have like similar kind of uses?
Speaker:I'm sure it does, but it has been used to create this oral product called Vahona.
Speaker:They have other species. So I think they use other species for topical application.
Speaker:It doesn't mean that it work but they use other species.
Speaker:Is it like for gum health or what does it?
Speaker:Gum health, uh-huh. Gum health, skin, intestinal healing, a lot of this,
Speaker:diarrhea, not diarrhea, constipation.
Speaker:It's a lot of the use of aloe as well.
Speaker:Yeah, yeah. That's what I remember about aloe. Like I did make like when I was
Speaker:into raw foods like some of these aloe vera based smoothies and I definitely noticed,
Speaker:does help reduce constipation, sometimes to the level of MCT oil running pants. Anyway.
Speaker:Yeah, it's quite something. Now, that's a key component.
Speaker:But just to be clear, constipation is a component of aloe that is normally removed
Speaker:when we make stem aloe or this extract from...
Speaker:Right, so you're not interested in that compound. Correct. So this is more the
Speaker:latex. So it's the alouins.
Speaker:They're very well known to do this. It's a class of compounds called intraquinone.
Speaker:They're known to do that. But some people have suggested, I mean,
Speaker:some link to cancer used for long periods of time.
Speaker:So right now, in order to comply with European regulations, US regulations,
Speaker:so we basically remove these intraquinones.
Speaker:So it's only the gel so it does not have the
Speaker:effect of on as a laxative right got
Speaker:it so let's go through some of
Speaker:the ingredients in this supplement is the product by the
Speaker:way the same in european market but that's great because it's not
Speaker:easy to get sometimes the regulatory approval here so
Speaker:let's go through some of the kind of key components you
Speaker:have three products i've tried the release
Speaker:i noticed like my my nails grow
Speaker:faster and it seems to support if i've had like jet lag or lack of sleep things
Speaker:like that so i like to take it almost like a stress supplement that's what i've
Speaker:been kind of using it for and dosing on it for a long period of time.
Speaker:The release one that helps to release themselves now
Speaker:can you go through the whole kind of protocol and stack
Speaker:of of things and so is this aloe is is that in the first product or is in all
Speaker:of them or like just on release release and sport right okay got it so let's
Speaker:go through kind of the mechanisms of action of this hairball compounds and maybe
Speaker:we can like touch base quickly on,
Speaker:Mechanisms of action are not the same for all the different plants that stimulate stem cells.
Speaker:In some of them, we don't know what's the mechanism of action.
Speaker:But the idea was to combine plants that have different mechanisms of action
Speaker:so that you get better synergy.
Speaker:The blue-green algae, the mechanism of action is that it contains an L-selectin blocker.
Speaker:L-selectin is a molecule that plays a role in the expression of a receptor on
Speaker:the surface of stem cells that play a crucial role in the resonance of stem
Speaker:cells in the bone marrow.
Speaker:The moment you down regulate that receptor by blocking the cell selectin,
Speaker:stem cells detach and get into the bloodstream. So that's one mechanism.
Speaker:The other mechanism is like you get this with nodal ginseng,
Speaker:for example. I believe we get this also with the seabuckthorn berry.
Speaker:So it's just like you have plants that do fast, that contains fasting mimicking compounds.
Speaker:They make your body they make your body act or your cells act as if you were
Speaker:fasting. In the same way, they're like injury-mimicking compounds.
Speaker:So we find in your bloodstream compounds that your body normally would release if it is injured.
Speaker:So it triggers a repair response, which is release of stem cells.
Speaker:There's another mechanism of action that the notogensen has,
Speaker:which is normally you have SDF1, which attracts stem cells to the bone marrow,
Speaker:always in the bone marrow. So it keeps stem cells in the bone marrow.
Speaker:But if you shift the gradient of SDF1 by reducing it in the bone marrow and
Speaker:increasing it in the blood, then now stem cells are attracted to the blood compartment.
Speaker:So Nodoginseng will do that. Within a few hours of consumption,
Speaker:you have a shift in the gradient of SDF1.
Speaker:So these are three different mechanisms of action.
Speaker:Nodoginseng and Jinxeng species
Speaker:in general, I've used them for their blood sugar regulation benefits.
Speaker:So many of these so-called adaptor chains have pretty
Speaker:interesting effects also on that side and in
Speaker:that way it also acts as kind of a nootropic because
Speaker:then you don't have that like fluctuation of blood sugar and you have better
Speaker:focus so when you are supporting the release now we have stem cells in the blood
Speaker:stream i assume that it's migrating potentially to the areas of injury right so how do we
Speaker:then support that function once it's in the bloodstream so it finds the right place and activates?
Speaker:Yeah, it's a good question because naturally stem cells will find that place
Speaker:where they need to go. This is how the body was designed.
Speaker:Whenever you have an injury as a kid, you know, it repaired.
Speaker:And that's the phenomenon that kicked in.
Speaker:When you're older, it does not repair as well. And there's a few reasons for that.
Speaker:Number one, you have fewer stem cells in circulation. but also as we age,
Speaker:microcirculation starts to get compromised. If you get an area that has developed
Speaker:some sort of chronic issues, oftentimes it affects the local microcirculation.
Speaker:So stem cells cannot really enter the blood circulation, the microvasculature
Speaker:of the area that is in need of repair.
Speaker:You're still releasing stem cells, but they cannot get to the area.
Speaker:So the area does not repair.
Speaker:So you develop the chronicity of the chronic nature of the problem.
Speaker:So, and that's where Mobilize comes in. So we develop Mobilize to open the blood vasculature.
Speaker:So it's natokinase to increase blood flow, to increase blood fluidity.
Speaker:We have a nitric oxide producer to dilate arterioles.
Speaker:Now arterioles dilation will bring more blood into the capillaries,
Speaker:but your capillaries need to be able to extend to accept this extra flow.
Speaker:So we have bioflavonoids, plant extract to help rebuild capillaries,
Speaker:and the polysaccharide to rebuild the glycocalyx.
Speaker:So basically, by using Mobilize with release that put more stem cells in circulation,
Speaker:now you make it easier for stem cells to really penetrate your microvasculature
Speaker:and go where they need to go to be able to do repair.
Speaker:Right. That's a smart strategy. You're basically...
Speaker:Improving microcirculation blood flow. I would imagine someone could use something
Speaker:like an infrared sauna or even like red light to increase that nitric oxide
Speaker:production and blood flow on these peripheral parts of the cardiovascular system.
Speaker:And yeah, then that could be potentially synergistic with this mobilized product. Absolutely.
Speaker:So far, I mean, red lights, sauna are relevant.
Speaker:What has probably been the most documented is pulse electromagnetic frequencies, PMF.
Speaker:So it has been actually a lot of the benefits of PMF now is suspected to be coming from stem cells,
Speaker:meaning that it supports the migration of stem cells and it pulls more stem
Speaker:cells in that area, either by an effect directly on stem cells or just because
Speaker:it increased microcirculation in the area.
Speaker:So it ends up pulling more stem cells stimulate their migration in the tissue,
Speaker:stimulate their proliferation.
Speaker:And if you apply PMF on stem cells themselves, it facilitates their transformation
Speaker:into bone, tendon, ligaments, muscles.
Speaker:And that's probably one of the reasons why PMF has been so good for injury,
Speaker:sport injuries, for example.
Speaker:That is a good one to apply locally. You release your own stem cells and then
Speaker:apply PMF in an area and there's a good chance that you're pulling stem cells
Speaker:there and stimulate their migration in the tissue where you want to go.
Speaker:It's just that it's not necessarily easy to do for let's say your liver, your heart, your brain.
Speaker:It's good for a joint or a muscle. You're kind of opening up the pipes a little
Speaker:bit so that the stuff can get into this destination.
Speaker:All right. So you have a sports product also? Correct. So what is the role of that? Well,
Speaker:As we started to have professional athletes and professional athletes wanting
Speaker:to try the product, because the one thing that we see that is almost like the
Speaker:most common is the speed of recovery.
Speaker:It really boosts someone's recovery time.
Speaker:So for professional athletes, this is worth a lot.
Speaker:Recovery time is probably the thing that they monitor the most.
Speaker:A lot of them wanted to use the product, but it was not NSF certified.
Speaker:So they're concerned about testing. So no athletes were really using the product.
Speaker:So we decided to go and get it NSF certified, but because stem regen release
Speaker:contains colostrum, colostrum is a natural source of insulin growth factor,
Speaker:and insulin growth factor is on the water list.
Speaker:So because of this, then NSF would not certify the product.
Speaker:Actually, none of the bodies certifying for sport for what would certify the product.
Speaker:So we had to remove the colostrum, and we decided to change it with a product
Speaker:that really supports recovery.
Speaker:So pterostilbene supports recovery after muscle exertion, but also as an effect
Speaker:on stem cells, supports migration, proliferation, and differentiation of stem cells.
Speaker:So by putting this product into stem regen release, now it becomes stem regen sport.
Speaker:It has been certified NSF, and it supports also better recovery for athletes, what the sport is.
Speaker:Right. So it's all about resilience and ability to bounce back from hardship,
Speaker:either physical or... or so this is good for the keyboard warriors also?
Speaker:For recovery. I mean, we have a study that we did. We published this in 2015,
Speaker:if I remember well, with a lesser formula than what we have now.
Speaker:It was just a chance that we had with a soccer team, professional soccer team in Madrid.
Speaker:And that team had 12 players with the same kind of soft tissue injury to the ankle.
Speaker:So they called their doctor, which is a friend of mine, and we decided to use
Speaker:this opportunity to do a study.
Speaker:So everybody had access to the normal treatments, everything that is available for them for repair.
Speaker:Six of them did exactly what the others did, plus adding stem cell release from their bone marrow.
Speaker:And what we could see in these individuals is that they use much less pain medication,
Speaker:much less anti-inflammatory drugs.
Speaker:They improve much faster and then return to play about a week before the other players.
Speaker:So just to show it just accelerate repair and
Speaker:recovery in case of injuries or just in case
Speaker:of micro lesions that have taken place in the past game
Speaker:or the past performance and now you repair much faster so it basically gives
Speaker:better performance over time to athletes got it all right so that's the stack
Speaker:right and we have one other product that we've developed called signal and this
Speaker:one is understanding that.
Speaker:Inflammation, and without going into the depth of what inflammation is,
Speaker:essentially the role of inflammation is to tell stem cells where the problem is.
Speaker:It's just to attract stem cells to that area.
Speaker:When stem cells migrate in an area, the first thing that they do is to suppress inflammation.
Speaker:So if something as poor microcirculation has become chronic,
Speaker:is not repairing, that means the inflammation created by this site has become systemic.
Speaker:Now stem cells can no longer see where it's coming from because it's everywhere.
Speaker:So it really suppresses its noise in the bloodstream that suppresses stem cells'
Speaker:ability to find where they need to go.
Speaker:So by taking signal, which is a bunch of plant extracts that blocks COX-2,
Speaker:5-LOX, all the different pathways of inflammation, so you suppress systemic
Speaker:inflammation or background noise just to allow stem cells to define where they need to go.
Speaker:The microcirculation is open so they can circulate there, and you can input,
Speaker:PMF, red lights, things like this, and you really maximize the whole outcome.
Speaker:So what is in that signal? Is the idea that you suppress the inflammation so
Speaker:that the signaling of the stem cells is going through?
Speaker:You suppress the secretion of these inflammatory compounds like phycocyanin,
Speaker:which is a blocker of COX-2, Dalia Chibula, Aritaki from Ayurveda,
Speaker:which is a blocker of five locks.
Speaker:You've got andrographis that prevents the secretion of certain inflammatory
Speaker:cytokines, bromelain that digest existing cytokines. So that's the idea of the formulation.
Speaker:There's a few other plants, but
Speaker:they all suppress the secretion of various inflammatory compounds. Right.
Speaker:All right. So at what age would you recommend someone starting a protocol like this?
Speaker:You mentioned at least, of course, any age, right?
Speaker:So if you want to recover faster and all of that but at
Speaker:what age does it become critical to support
Speaker:this like because I can imagine that these studies that are
Speaker:about this recovery ability like if there's an effect then the older you are
Speaker:probably have a more profound relative effect because when you're young you
Speaker:recover fast anyway right so you have all the energy in the world but as you
Speaker:age you start to see like slowing down many processes, including production of stem cells.
Speaker:So from what age onwards would you look at it?
Speaker:I started all this work. My thought was in young people, we shouldn't see really
Speaker:big difference because they already have plenty of stem cells.
Speaker:In old people, let's say past 80 years of age, they have so few stem cells that,
Speaker:you know, if you have a buck in your pocket, a dollar in your pocket,
Speaker:euro in your pocket, and I double it, well, you still only have two euros.
Speaker:So it's not really going to make a big difference.
Speaker:And all I can say is that everything that we have seen over the past,
Speaker:what, 20, 25 years that have been working with these plants is that at any age,
Speaker:you put more stem cells in circulation and the body will utilize these stem
Speaker:cells. But you are correct in saying that.
Speaker:Like observationally, if you don't know about the people who seem to experience
Speaker:greater benefit are people beyond, let's say, 40 years of age.
Speaker:Meaning when you put more stem cells in circulation, their body is just thirsty
Speaker:for those stem cells and they utilize it and you see a greater difference.
Speaker:You see it in younger people, it's more in athletes. When they're really pushing
Speaker:themselves, they have more stem cells in circulation, but they really abuse their bodies.
Speaker:So putting more stem cells seem to really make a difference.
Speaker:Right so that actually aligns really
Speaker:well what we started from which was this
Speaker:whole idea of preventing degenerative
Speaker:diseases and the statistics show that you know you're pretty good until you
Speaker:know 30s late 30s but when you hit 40 especially when you hit 50 like degenerative
Speaker:diseases like and overlapping ones even like they just go up and off the roof or through the roof.
Speaker:So that would make a lot of sense that supporting the stem cell release at that
Speaker:age makes sense. Totally.
Speaker:The biggest message of all this knowledge in stem cells, we have evolved,
Speaker:grown into societies that, you know, on the culture, if I could say,
Speaker:of traditional medicine, which is you do something only when you have a problem.
Speaker:And once you've resolved the problem, then you stop doing what you did to resolve
Speaker:the problem and not really fully understanding that the moment you stop,
Speaker:well, you've just restarted to
Speaker:develop the next problem that will be there five, 10 years down the road.
Speaker:We're constantly developing problems. The moment that we pass,
Speaker:we don't have enough stem cells in circulation to really offset cellular loss.
Speaker:So we restart the development of something else.
Speaker:Once we understand this, to me, it becomes obvious.
Speaker:Let's just put more stem cells in circulation every day, or at least when you're
Speaker:in your 30s, let's say once a year for a month.
Speaker:When you're in 40s, do this two, three, four times a year.
Speaker:When you're in your 50s, start to think about doing this maybe every other month
Speaker:or start to do this like all the time.
Speaker:Just put more stem cells in circulation every day and you really boost your
Speaker:body's ability to keep the health that you have today for decades to come.
Speaker:Got it. So that's a completely new way to think about supplements.
Speaker:I mean, people think about supporting immune system or cognitive function or
Speaker:cardiovascular system.
Speaker:Where you started from was to highlight this system that we have maybe neglected,
Speaker:that we focus too much on the nervous system, immune system,
Speaker:cardiovascular system.
Speaker:Now, this whole stem cell, which is the recovery system, like when you take
Speaker:that on the list, potential supplements.
Speaker:Actually have synergistic effects to all those other things that you want to also do.
Speaker:Total logical regulation, cardiovascular performance, nerve system health, all of that.
Speaker:So some of these plant extracts would be very beneficial alongside with your stack. Yeah.
Speaker:Stem cells have been like, take cardiovascular issues, for example.
Speaker:I remember an article, the title, if I remember well, was Aterosclerosis Results
Speaker:from a Loss of a Failure of Endogenous Repair, which means stem cells.
Speaker:So it's directly linked to the fact that you don't have enough stem cells in circulation.
Speaker:And that is true for a lot of other conditions. We develop them because when
Speaker:the problems start at a very small level, it is not repaired.
Speaker:And it grows and it develops and it leads to more serious problems that are
Speaker:getting more and more difficult to reverse.
Speaker:But it starts by a poor ability to repair.
Speaker:The moment that we boost that ability to repair, we nip in the bud,
Speaker:any of these small problems developing. So it becomes a much smarter strategy
Speaker:to really age with optimal health and for longevity. But it's not in our psyche.
Speaker:Our psyche is that if I feel fine
Speaker:today, then I will do something about my health when I start to lose it.
Speaker:And oftentimes, I won't say it's too late, but it's much more difficult at that
Speaker:point than it would have been just to maintain your good health.
Speaker:And that's something that is, I mean, the world of biohacking is definitely
Speaker:as understood, this whole thing, and then so many things are being done to reach
Speaker:optimal health, which is really, I think this is where all of this is going.
Speaker:How do you know that someone is really getting benefits of stem cells while
Speaker:taking a product like this?
Speaker:Is there like an immediate effect that you would see from it?
Speaker:Or is it something you have to take for like 30 days until you see some results?
Speaker:Well, it depends. It really depends on the person. It depends what problem needs
Speaker:to be resolved. You've been releasing stem cells since the day you're born.
Speaker:Like stem cells have been doing their work in everybody every single day of their life.
Speaker:So to put more in circulation, it's like you're breathing hair and you go to
Speaker:a place where there's more oxygen, you won't feel it.
Speaker:You may feel more energy, but you cannot detect it, you know, per se.
Speaker:So it's a little bit the same thing. So you won't detect that you have more
Speaker:stem cells in circulation.
Speaker:If you do have an injury, if you do have something that needs repair,
Speaker:yeah, you can see the effect on whatever needs to be repaired.
Speaker:But what I often tell people is that you really want to see what your stem cells
Speaker:can do for you and how stem regen release really puts more stem cells in circulation.
Speaker:Go to the gym. Do something that is going to really create soreness and kill
Speaker:yourself at the gym. Go run a marathon.
Speaker:Something that will create some pain. And then take two capsules of stem regen
Speaker:release right after. See how you feel the day after.
Speaker:It will be completely different. And it's just the role of your own stem cells.
Speaker:You've just released your own stem cells and they were immediately attracted
Speaker:where you had micro lesions and muscle ligaments, tendons, and so on. And they repaired.
Speaker:And then the process can be, by experience, can be fairly fast.
Speaker:And that will show you that not only the product works, but that your stem cells
Speaker:are working in your body. Right.
Speaker:So as a use case, you might have a chronic condition or you're worried to develop
Speaker:one. You could use that long-term.
Speaker:The second thing is you're worried about aging and
Speaker:you're interested in health span optimization
Speaker:potential lifespan that's when you would do it and the
Speaker:third one would be that you are going through periods of
Speaker:stress or strenuous exercise and
Speaker:you're beating your body in different ways and then this
Speaker:is almost like almost like an insurance that
Speaker:you can take in a sense that you will recover faster
Speaker:and you will get get faster benefits and you're back
Speaker:on the back on the wheel so to say back on
Speaker:the tracks faster and something for athletes
Speaker:professional athletes or people who really have severe and recurrent activity
Speaker:is that whenever you have an injury it's always at the place of the accumulation
Speaker:of smaller micro lesions that have not fully repaired so if you start to repair
Speaker:those much more effectively and much more quickly,
Speaker:it's an insurance against future injuries.
Speaker:So to me, for somebody who is aging, let's say past 40, but still wants to train
Speaker:and have intense physical activity, it's an insurance against injuries.
Speaker:Anyone who has chronic pain or kind of repeating issues on certain areas.
Speaker:I just met someone who loves dancing, but can't really do it because all the
Speaker:damage that has accumulated over the years.
Speaker:I personally have some wrist issues from using...
Speaker:The damn broad and too much and i.
Speaker:Love i love computers but i don't like the way i
Speaker:put stress on my joint someone who's been playing tennis
Speaker:or golf or football and
Speaker:has joint issues like tennis elbow or something
Speaker:like this that chronic thing that has
Speaker:been accumulating that might be useful then to also
Speaker:stimulate the release signaling
Speaker:the migration the activation of stem cells on
Speaker:those target sides and i think that basically means
Speaker:that this approach has multiple different
Speaker:use cases for which reasons you might want to try it
Speaker:i have personally used it now and i
Speaker:love the product i like with many supplements you're
Speaker:kind of thinking like is my body going to tolerate it
Speaker:is there like side effects or something like this but i've
Speaker:only seen like positive side effects yeah like faster
Speaker:recovery better gut function there has
Speaker:been also like this weird like nail
Speaker:growth and hair growth like seems like yeah i mean
Speaker:my system is definitely responding very well to this
Speaker:stack and i love herbs and here in
Speaker:hololife summit at hololife dinner we actually made a
Speaker:salad dressing out of your your product
Speaker:so we we drew that into a nice
Speaker:i mean many of these herbs are fat soluble so using
Speaker:it like in an olive oil dressing or something like this is
Speaker:a it's pretty interesting way of making a stem
Speaker:cell supporting gravy but yeah capsules are the way how you use them it's not.
Speaker:Even that many like there's many products you have to take like 15 but this
Speaker:is like only like two yeah yeah yeah that i also like that it's the effective
Speaker:dose doesn't require that you have like some massive dose of pills in the morning.
Speaker:But yeah, this is a great product so far in my experience.
Speaker:And I love all the formulation details also for other synergistic targets that
Speaker:we're not going to cover now.
Speaker:But if anyone looks into ginseng and there was sea buckthorn,
Speaker:I mean, I use sea buckthorn all the time.
Speaker:I just actually had a sea buckthorn shot today.
Speaker:And that's one of those berries that I have available locally,
Speaker:but when I travel, I don't have.
Speaker:So taking a STEMREGEN bottle with
Speaker:me is a way for me to have that insurance that i have access
Speaker:to sea buckthorn which is a pretty resilient plant
Speaker:so if people want to now get
Speaker:their hands on STEMREGEN it's available in european union it was not so easy
Speaker:on this as you know like you often order all kinds of supplements from online
Speaker:stores and they get stuck in customs coming to europe now you can actually order
Speaker:it from european union so you go to stemregen.co/eu,
Speaker:and you will be able to
Speaker:get your hands on these goodies that me and Dr. Olli Sovijärvi
Speaker:and Siim Land also who is the slowest aging
Speaker:person not on the planet i think it's a bit too much to say that but he's on
Speaker:definitely on top three of the slowest aging people he beat even Bryan Johnson
Speaker:and he has been a big fan of all these kind of adaptogenic herbs and different
Speaker:ways of slowing down the aging process.
Speaker:So with that, is there anything else you want to throw in?
Speaker:We've talked a lot. Yeah, fantastic. So people listening,
Speaker:check out also the last episode we did with Christian Drapeau
Speaker:and hopefully this added additional
Speaker:context on the actual usage of these products that
Speaker:are part of this new system the recovery system
Speaker:an old system 100 years old system but a new system in terms of public awareness
Speaker:and also professional awareness i would say and there is a supplemental approach
Speaker:how you can stimulate your stem cell production and proliferation thank you very much.
Speaker:Music.
